Posts Tagged ‘raw fed great dane’

Gorge Meal!

DaneMama08 | March 15th, 2011

We scored a whole hog for free this week. Decided to feed it all in one sitting as a gorge meal. The dogs are all fat, happy and passed out.

Why feed a whole hog at once? Gorge meals are a normal thing for wolves, dogs. Their lives revolve around finding food. Either they find a carcass or they make a fresh meal but either way they eat as much as they can in one sitting because they have no idea when their next meal will come. Obviously our dogs at home know when their next meal is coming, and so do we. So, why do a gorge meals? For several reasons.

First, feeding a meal like this gives our dogs the opportunity to really get a mentally stimulating experience. It takes a lot more mental work for a dog to rip and tear meat off, crunch through bones of this kind of source. The enjoyment alone we watch from our dogs eating is reinforcing enough to do it again.

Second, it allows us to feed large meals to our big dogs. It saves us a lot of work with breaking down a whole hog, just let the dogs do the work!

Third, it may or may not provide any health benefits. There is no research, anecdotal or scientific, stating one way or the other. Many raw feeders do this and it works well for their dogs.

Gorging and fasting should not be attempted by the novice raw feeder. I highly suggest that only dogs who have been raw feeding for a few years do this. It takes some time and conditioning to get a dog’s system capable of handling such a large meal. This can be achieved by gradually increasing the size of a meal once every 2 weeks, and then increasing the space between the larger meal and their next meal. Puppies weaned to or switched to raw feeding early are better equipped to handle gorging and fasting sooner, but I don’t suggest doing it until the puppy is at least 6 months old, unless its a toy/small breed who may never be able to handle a true gorge/fast meal even as an adult. Toy or small breeds who are prone to hypoglycemia should never be fasted for long periods of time, so true gorge/fast meals may never be done with these dogs. Just proceed with caution and always supervise any feeding of any kind with a scrupulous eye!

Our dogs pictured below have been raw feeding for at least 2 years, the exceptions being two Great Dane puppies, 8 and 10 months old. All of them have been conditioned to gorge meals and handle them well!

Picture time….enjoy!

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When is Prey Model Raw NOT ideal?

DaneMama08 | December 2nd, 2010

Canine Hyperuricosuria and The Black Russian Terrier

 

Knowing that Duncan has this I am now in “must learn as much about this as possible” mode. I have been researching quite a bit the last few days. As sad as I am about his condition, I think that things happen for a reason. He was meant to be with me and I am going to do everything in my power to help him in any way I can.

 

I would love to share with you all what I have found. I apologize if this is something that some of you already know, but I thought I would share it for any new people to the breed or any new people who don’t know much about Canine Hyperuricosuria (like me).

 

This is what I have learned so far:

 

The formation of urate stones occurs because affected dogs excrete uric acid in their urine rather than allantoin. Uric acid and allantoin are waste products from a chemical called purine, thus uric acid is formed from purines. The presence of uric acid (rather than allantoin) is what causes these dogs to produce and form urate crystals or stones. These crystals and stones can become lodged in the bladder or urethra causing a blockage.

 

Dogs have the ability to produce any purines that they need from other things in their diet. So, for dogs that are affected with Canine Hyperuricosuria you want to limit the purines in their diet significantly. A big key thing to understand is that you don’t want to limit the amount of protein in the dogs diet, but what you DO want to limit is the TYPE of proteins you feed the dog.

 

I have been in contact with some Dalmatian people since Canine Hyperuricosuria is a prevalent problem in the Dalmatian breed. Every single dog is affected and runs the chance of developing these urate stones. Female dogs are usually less likely to have a problem due to the fact that their urinary tract anatomy is a straight shot from the bladder to the outside. Males are the ones that have a bigger chance of having problems due to the shape of their os penis. There is a bend in their penis where stones have a greater chance of getting stuck, thus causing a blockage.

 

So moving back to purines, protein and diet. It is very important for dogs that are stone formers to be fed a diet low in purines. Purines are highest in organ meat, red meats, game meats and sardines.

 

There are a variety of diets you can put your dog on:
-Science Diet UD
-Royal Canin Urinary UC
-Flint River Ranch has several kibbles suited for this condition

-There are a variety of Limited Ingredient Kibbles that would work as well.
-A BARF (raw) diet geared towards dogs with this condition
I feed my dogs a raw diet. However, finding out about Duncan’s condition had led me to decision that I am needing to modify his diet.

 

I have researched the “Dalmatian Raw Diet” thanks to the advice from some Dalmatian breeders who feed the same and have had for years with great success. The diet mainly consists of chicken and turkey (since white meats are the lowest in purines), a veggie/fruit puree (to replace the nutrients lost from the organ meat and red meat), eggs, and some added supplements that are to be given a few times a week. Some add in dairy products (cottage cheese, yogurt, etc).  A word of caution, some dogs will tolerate dairy while others won’t.  It will depend on your individual dog as to whether you will want to feed any dairy or not.

 

Along with a low purine diet, WATER is the next most important thing to add to the diet. Stones are less likely to form in dilute urine. Also, emptying the bladder often is another important thing.  Raw diets are high in moisture content (around 80%), however, I still recommend to add warm water to your dogs meals.  If feeding a kibble, float your dogs meals in warm water. Keep the urine dilute and the bladder flushed!

 

I think it is very important to add that the diet for an HU affected dog must be tailored to that individual dog.  What one dog may be able to tolerate in its diet another may not.  Each dog is going to have a tolerance level to purine content.  If you go over that limit your dog will end up with urate crystals present in the urine, which have the potential to turn into stones.  It is the owners job to carefully adjust the diet to meet the needs of their individual dog.

 

It is a good idea for dogs who are stone formers to have a routine urinalysis done by your vet as well as testing the urine from time to time with pH test strips. You are wanting to keep the urine alkaline, as apposed to acidic.

 

There is also a medication called “Allopurinol”. I don’t know much about it, but what I have learned so far is that is it given twice a day at the proper dosage for dissolving urate stones. This is used as a prevention once the dog has undergone a surgery to have stones removed.  It is very important to note that if you are giving your dog Allopurinol you MUST feed a low purine diet or else the dog runs the risk of developing xanthine stones.

 

So here is the short version:
Purines -> Hypoxanthine -> Xanthine -> Uric Acid -> Allantoin

 

Dogs with Canine Hyperuricosuria stop at uric acid. The medication Allopurinol shuts down “xanthine oxidase” which is responsible for converting Hypoxanthine to Xanthine and ultimately to uric acid. With out this conversion purines are stuck in Hypoxantine and never make it to uric acid.

 

So…that’s it! I am continuing my research and will share any more that I learn. I know that I feel much better about Duncan after learning more….and I hope this information can help someone in some way. :0) Knowledge is power!

Resources:

This website had great information and is where I ordered my DNA test for Duncan:

http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/Hyperuricosuria.php

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/uric_acid_stones_in_dalmatians.html

http://www.thedca.org/purines.html

http://www.acumedico.com/purine.htm

http://hattrickdalmatians.com/PreventingUrateStoneFormation.html

http://www.britishdalmatianclub.org.uk/health/index.php?action=urinary_stones_detailed

I also got information from a great article in The Whole Dog Journal titled “Cast in Stone” June 2010 issue.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-228995247.html

Raw & Natural Nutrition for Dogs, The Definitive Guide to Homemade Meals written by Lew Olson, PhD has some great information on nutrition as a whole, as well as a chapter on bladder stones.

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9781583942949&view=quotes

I also had several exchanged emails with Dr. Tom Lonsdale on the topic of urate stones.

http://www.rawmeatybones.com/

Duncan is a happy, handsome boy and is lucky to have such a caring and devoted dog-mom!

 

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Picky Eaters 101

DaneMama08 | October 27th, 2010

Lots of people switching their dogs to a prey model raw diet are faced with the battle of picky eaters. Their dogs show pretty much no interest in the food that is put in front of them. This can be for many reasons from just not knowing what to do with it to being just plain picky. The best way to combat this is to follow the steps I have written out. Once you have overcome this small hurdle (trust me, its hard…I’ve personally had to do it with switching my own over) you wont regret it one second. Just keep telling yourself that

1) YOU are in charge of what your dog eats, when it eats and how much it eats

2) YOU are NOT starving your dog, your dog is choosing not to eat

3) Applying “tough love” is the way to go with stubborn dogs!

Good luck!

Picky eaters 101:

Picky eaters are created. If you allow your dog to pick and choose what to eat, they win and you lose. You must choose a good food that works well for your dog (health wise) and stick to it (in this case raw meaty bones). You are the parent and the one in control of your dog’s health, not your dog because they do not know what is best. You must regain pack leadership and respect from your dog by being in control.

1. Pick a good, healthy food (in this case raw meaty bones).

2. Stick to it no matter how “picky” your dog seems. Only change foods if you notice a health issue.

3. Get on scheduled feeding times.

4. Don’t at any time coax your dog to eat the food, whether that be vocal reinforcement or adding anything to it to make it more inticing to eat. Just simply set the food down and go about your business.

5. Offer a meal of the food you choose and give your dog no more than 15 minutes to eat it. If they doesn’t touch it, pick it up to
feed at the next feeding time.

6. Offer the food again at the next scheduled feeding. Same as before give no more than 15 minutes. If not touched, pick it up and save for the next feeding time.

7. Give NO snacks or treats between feeding times (until you succeed at this picky eater issue).

8. Keep offering the same food each meal time until it is eaten. Keep up this until it’s not an issue and your dog will eat what you choose. This may take days, it took my girls 5 WHOLE days of not eating anything to get the hint. I am so proud of myself for doing it!

Things to remember:

1. No healthy dog will intentionally starve itself. Each time your doesn’t eat what you put down, they are choosing not to eat…you are not starving your dog. You are providing them what you think is the best nutrition there is and that is what you have to keep in mind.

2. Picky eaters are manipulative. Every time you cater to their wants, they win and are in control. Whether you give them added attention or additions, they are getting what they want. Nothing in life for them should be free and that definitely applies to your respect.

3. Patience is key in this situation. Some dogs are so set in their ways that it will take days for them to cave in and just eat. I have known some dogs (ahem) that will go five days until this happens…but it is worth the wait. If you get your dog to respect you in this situation it will respect you in more ways than you can imagine. Keep the “tough love” approach and you will be rewarded!

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How to break down a turkey in under 10 minutes

Jon | October 13th, 2010

Turkey is an easy way to add a cheap alternative protein source to your feeding schedule. Hit up the after Thanksgiving sales and stock up! We’ve seen them as cheap at $0.25/lb after Thanksgiving.

The biggest problem is breaking down that whole turkey into smaller meals. We’ve put together a simple video demonstrating an easy method for breaking down a turkey in under 10 minutes.

We recommend having at least 1 VERY sharp knife to use for this. We prefer Shun knives. They ARE expensive but you’ll only need to sharpen them about once a year due to their high quality construction.
http://www.5vido.com/ShunKnives

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Early Bird Gets The….

DaneMama08 | October 12th, 2010

….awesome racks of elk ribs for the girls! I was rudely awakened early this morning by 7 crazy, bouncy dogs. So the good girlfriend that I am, went out into the living room to give Jon his beauty sleep. Received an email from one of the local raw feeding groups about two whole racks and the neck of an elk available from a local game processor. I jumped on it like an early bird on a worm! And we got em! WOOHOO! Over 100 pounds of all natural goodness, best part was it was ALL FREE!!! We also went and picked up 5 large turkeys from another lady for free too, so not to bad of a score today. If we factor in the cost of gas we only spent about $20 on it all!

We decided to let all the girls eat from it together like a wild pack of dogs and it went great! A few growls here and there, but they handled it like a real pack. It was one of the greatest things to watch…I LOVE feeding raw to my girls.

The looks we got from people driving by were priceless! Even one of the local dogs (a lot of stray dogs in our neighborhood…) came up to the fence looking for some meat, so I cut some off and tossed it out, probably one of the best meals of that dogs life!

Comparison shot of Bailey next to the ribs. She probably weighs only 10 pounds more than both chunks put together:

The left overs…we decided to take them off of it and save it for another day. They were all “puffy” anyways:

And here’s some video footage we took…sorry for the lame commentary!

Elk Rib Dinner from YouTube

Now they are all passed out in a food coma. Life is good!

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Akasha and the fish (raw fed Great Dane)

Jon | February 5th, 2010

This was our first raw fish meal. As you can see only 1 was really interested. The 2 Great Danes eat fish every morning now though (whole tilapia)

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToXzDZPKxMs

Some dogs just don’t like fish.  Don’t force it on them.  If you can’t talk them into eating whole raw fish you can usually add fish to their diet by feeding canned Mackerel, Salmon, etc.  Even canned sardines make a great treat from time to time.

We also give our girls fish oil capsules every night or two.  That’s the ONLY supplement we give

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How to get started feeding a Prey Model Raw Diet

Jon | February 5th, 2010

Feeding a Prey Model Raw diet can be VERY easy if you follow some simple guidelines when making the switch from kibble to raw. Making this transition as easy as possible is the ultimate goal.  Because the easier it is for the dog, it will be  easier for you as well. By following the guidelines set below, digestive upset should be at a minimum! This guideline is a tried and true method of making the switch with minimal issues with dogs.

You may not stick to the guideline 100%, and will find yourself taking longer or even shorter to see the desired effect at each step of the way. That is perfectly fine. Every dog is different and will tolerate change at his own pace. Don’t feel that if you are falling behind in the schedule that you should just give up.  Keep going and you will get there when you do!  With all that said, I do NOT recommend skipping steps. If you skip a step you might find yourself behind by two steps. This transition is meant to be slow and for good reason.  Make it easy on the dog and yourself.

Commit To Change

Make the switch cold turkey – No pun intended.   You do not want to start your dog on raw feeding while still eating kibble. The two do not mix well together because it “confuses” the body about what it’s digesting. Feeding raw and kibble at the same time often causes digestive upset and it is not recommended. If you do not want to throw away the kibble you have left, donate it to a local animal rescue organization.  They probably need it more than you do.  Or you can just finish feeding it before starting raw.

Make the decision to switch and stick to it. This is a gradual process that takes patience sometimes, so keep that in mind. Remember that you are doing this because it IS the best thing that you could ever do for your canine companions.

Prepare yourself.

You will need to get the appropriate supplies to make feeding raw as hassle free as possible. Depending on how many dogs you are switching, the amount of supplies will vary greatly. We have 4 giant dogs that all eat raw, so we definitely need more room than say a person with just one Chihuahua to feed.

I recommend getting at least one small dedicated freezer even if only feeding one dog. This way you can keep stock of a bunch of different types of meat at any given point in time. Some people do just fine using the space in the freezer they use for their food, but when getting into raw feeding you will find yourself continually looking for new sources of meats. Its best to always be able to take meat on a whim and have space to store it. For example, lets say you come across someone on craigslist that is wanting to get rid of some elk meat, but they have 20 pounds of it. You should be able to take it all off their hands and repackage it into meals to last a long time so that you are not feeding just elk for 2 weeks straight. Keep in mind that you will also have a stash of chicken, turkey, pork, fish, beef, etc that will take up space as well!

Chest and standup freezers are both available on craigslist on a regular basis and usually if you look hard enough you can find some really good deals.

You need to think and prepare how you are going to store the meat in the freezer. Some people package meat into individual meals or into packages that are several days worth of food. You should look at containers so you can plan  how many will fit in your freezer, etc. I prefer using containers that hold 2 days worth of food for our 4 dogs because they are reusable and more economical. I know others that use freezer bags as well.

A scale is also a tool that you might want around in the beginning. It’s used to measure the amounts of meat per meal or per day.

Most importantly, set up connections with other raw feeders out there. Join forums and become active on them. Gain the friendship and trust of the people who can offer you their advice and experience. Trust me, these connections are just as valuable as the health aspect is to your dog. These people will help you through all the steps along they way.  They will  tell you when you should relax or panic in a situation.  In essence they will try and keep you sane through the process.

Do some research. Find raw feeding groups on groups.yahoo.com that are applicable to breed or location, there are plenty to choose from. Find a yahoo coop group and join it to get good deals on group buys and such. Find a wholesale meat distributor and build a relationship with them.  Ask them if they have a program for raw feeders that they can get you signed up on (what we use for most of our meats).

You can find a list of resources on this website to make it even easier for you!

Doing a bit of Math

The feeding guideline is between 2-3% of the adult dog’s ideal body weight per day (keep in mind that this is for IDEAL weight…and that your dog might need to lose or gain some weight so adjust the amount accordingly!). For example, if a dog weighs 60 pounds, he should be getting 1.2-1.8 pounds of food per day. The 2-3% is just a guideline, and you should also take into account your dog’s energy level, age, breed, etc into account when figuring out how much to feed, which just might mean you would be giving more like 4% per day.

I will be honest here  We have never measured anything. I find it much easier to just keep an eye on body condition.  If they are looking heavy, I cut back or vice versa. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with measuring different cuts of meat in the beginning so you can get a feel for how much to feed. We know exactly how much to feed or dogs from experience as you will once you get the hang of it!

It takes a bit more math if starting a puppy. Start off feeding 10% of its current weight, meaning if a puppy weighs 10 pounds, feed 1 pound per day. If this puppy is supposed to be 60 pounds full grown, its ideal amount of food per day is 1.2-1.8 pounds per day. Once the puppy reaches ~18 pounds, or the 3% amount of adult body weight, you should back the amount down the 2-3% for normal feeding. You will only be feeding 10% for a little while, which is normal. Its better to split this amount up into several smaller meals since this will be a lot of food for a little growing puppy. Remember, this is just a guideline and every dog is different.

The suggested guideline when figuring how much to feed of what is: 10% whole, raw bones, 10% whole raw organ meats and 80% skeletal muscle meats. This 1:1:8 ratio best represents the average amount of bone, organ and meat tissue within prey animals. The way I see it, you should be feeding some bone, some organ and mostly muscle meat. I don’t do the math to figure out how in pounds/ounces to feed of each to my dogs. I just feed things that I know are mostly meat, some bone and some organ. If you want to do the math explicitly, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.   You might have a hard time figuring out how much bone to meat there is in a turkey neck (which have a lot of bone in them by weight!).

What to Feed, What Not to Feed

The more the variety the better, which goes for all muscle meats, bones and organs. Feed pretty much anything you can get your hands on but the main staples that you will find are chicken, turkey, pork, beef, and fish. There are many others out there like elk, deer, rabbit, duck, quail, bison, etc.

When it comes to organs, make sure that you feed at least liver. Liver and kidney is better. Liver, kidney, pancreas, lungs, etc is even better. Heart and gizzard are both considered muscle meats when it comes to nutrition and do not count as organ meat.

There are only a couple of precautions with types of meat. All fresh fish coming from the Pacific Northwest should be frozen for at least a few weeks to kill off a parasite that transmits a disease that is called salmon poisoning. Second, don’t feed weight bearing bones from larger ungulates like cows, buffalo or elk. Dogs have the potential to break teeth on these bones because they are designed to carry around up to several thousand pounds and you do not want your dog to chomp down on that! Ground meats should be fed sparingly. I would say no more than once a week. Ground meats have a tenancy to have more bacteria and don’t provide any dental benefit to your dog.  Stay away from oddly shaped or cut pieces of bone, like T-bones. These bones are more likely to cause a blockage.

A good rule for picking out pieces of meat to feed, is that your dog should never be able to swallow anything whole without at least crunching down on it a few times to make it small enough fit down his throat. If your dog can swallow something whole stay away from it. The risk of choking or getting a blockage goes up if your dog can swallow it whole. For example, its not recommended to feed chicken necks or drumsticks to large breed dogs because they tend to swallow them whole. Chewing through bones is one of the biggest benefits from a raw diet, so you might as well make them chew their food! Keep in mind that dogs don’t chew their food like we do.  They don’t need to. They just have to make it small enough to fit down the hatch.  So don’t panic if you see your dog crunch a chicken quarter 3 or 4 times and then swallow it.

This site is called Prey Model Raw because it is all about mimicking the diet that dogs would thrive on if they were still wild. It differs from the BARF diet by not including vegetables, fruit and dairy. There is the age old debate of whether wolves/dogs are true carnivores and should have plant matter included in their diet. We here at PMR don’t believe they are a necessity. Will they harm your dogs? Probably not, maybe just a bit of digestive upset. But are they necessary? Absolutely not.

Taking the Plunge

So, at this point you know what to feed, what not to feed, how much to feed, where and how you will store it, and where to find good meats.  You should  have plenty of support from experienced people. You also shoule set up connections with meat distributors or butchers. Now I think you are ready to begin with the actual process!

Weeks 1 and 2

Fasting your dog one day before giving them anything raw is highly recommended, followed by a small meal of raw the first day is best. Too much raw food all at once can be more detrimental than good. You will want to feed only one protein source during this time. The most recommended thing to go with is  bone in chicken parts.  Chicken cheap, easy to find and easy for a dog to digest. I recommend feeding chicken backs for the first 2-3 days. Chicken backs are higher in bone content.  The higher the bone content the firmer the stools will be because bone is a constipating agent.  Too much bone can cause problems but shouldn’t be an issue in the beginning. After the 3rd day I would add in chicken quarters alternating with backs every other meal. Chicken leg quarters have a bit more meat to them and less bone. You don’t want your dog to become constipated on nothing but chicken backs. Continue with alternating chicken backs and quarters until you have noticed consistent firm stools for at least 7 days in a row.

Don’t Panic

Hopefully at this point you haven’t seen any digestive upset! But if you have…DON’T PANIC! Dogs that have been on kibble for a long time generally have the hardest time with the switch because their bodies are not used to such a new food. Sometimes dogs go through something that some call the “detox” stage.  To me its more just a transition that the body must undergo from digesting overly processed, species inappropriate foods to whole, fresh, raw foods. During this time digestive enzymes must change to be able to digest this new diet. Sometimes this can take up to a few weeks. Loose stool and occasional vomiting is seen during this time but these usually clear up within a day or so. If not, taking your dog to the vet is a good idea.

Seeing pieces of bone in stool is normal in the beginning.  You will see less and less of this as time goes on. The body is in its adjustment phase and is still getting used to breaking down bones. Digestive enzymes are changing and their ability to break down bone becomes more and more effective as time goes on. Don’t panic if you see pieces of bone in your dog’s stool. Trust me, its normal.

This “detox” stage is the reason why weeks 1 and 2 are exclusively one protein source. It poses the easiest route for the body to become adjusted to a 180 degree change in diet. If you were to undergo the same change, going from mostly processed foods to fresh whole raw foods, your body would not be the happiest in the beginning. In the long term your body would thank you immensely for the added health! Keep up the good work and stay strong. Make sure the connections you have made with your support team are there for you all along the way.

Weeks 3 and 4

At this point your dog should be doing awesome. You will even be able to notice a change in young healthy animals even. Coats looking softer and shinier. Teeth are looking bright white and clean with no more tartar or plaque or bad breath. Digestion is under control.  Those of you with constant diarrhea are at ease. What to do now?

At this point you have probably become very excited and immersed yourself in the “raw world” looking for any possible connection for meat and what you can get your hands on.  Keep up the research but tread lightly. While this far you have seen nothing but improvement, you can easily overdo things too early and end back up on square one. So you must be patient with adding in new things.

I recommend adding in something like turkey next. Turkey necks or wings would work great for this. Add in turkey alternating with chicken every other meal. If you don’t notice any problems with this addition, keep up with alternating one and then the other. If you have noticed a bit of looser stool, you can add in one turkey meal to every two chicken meals until you notice things are back to normal and then try and add more turkey back in. I would keep up with just chicken and turkey for at least a week of normal stools before adding in the next protein source.

The next protein source I recommend is pork or fish. A lot of dogs will not eat raw fish so you can give canned fish instead. Canned salmon, tuna, sardines or mackerel work well but they are expensive if you have a lot of dogs to feed (canned tuna is not bone in, the rest should be). If going with pork, I would add  pork ribs or neck bones into the mix. Add either fish or pork in the same way you did with turkey, alternating it every other meal with chicken and turkey. For example the morning meal would be chicken, the evening meal is fish, then the next day the morning meal is turkey. Continue this until you notice normal stool for a week on this type of feeding schedule. Again, if you notice loose stool, go in a bit lighter on the new protein source until you can get it in every 3rd meal without a hitch.

As you can see, there is a trend of adding in just bone in meats in this transition. Remember that bone adds bulk to their stool, keeping them nice and firm. Monitoring bowel movements is a great way to see how a dog’s body is responding to the food that you are giving it. So by the end of this transition you will become a poo expert!

Weeks 5 and 6

If you added in fish last time, add in pork and vise versa. Add them in the same techniques used before during the first couple of weeks.

Week 6 I would add in beef, which is most likely not going to be bone in. Most bone in beef sources are not okay for dogs to eat because the bones are just way too dense for their teeth to crunch through. The only bone in beef source that we feed to our dogs is beef ribs, and its more of a treat and recreational chewing than a meal.

Finding beef at a reasonable cost that isn’t ground can be a tough thing. Beef heart is what we tend to feed on a regular basis because it is considered muscle meat nutritionally but it is very rich and its affordable. Adding beef heart is a bit trickier than anything else up to this point. Not only does it not have any bone to add bulk to stool but its super rich. I recommend giving half the amount in weight of beef heart than you normally give. In this case, less can be better. Once your dog gets used to something so rich you can add in more.

Most likely you will see some loose stool. You can feed a chicken back meal before and after for the added bone or in conjunction with the beef heart. Then the next day just do chicken and turkey. Feed your rotation of chicken, turkey, fish, pork and beef until you see a weeks worth of normal stool.

Weeks 7 and 8

Woohoo! You’ve made it this far, don’t stop now! Unfortunately this can be the hardest part of the whole process. This is the time when you add in organ meats. Lots of dogs refuse to eat organ meat. You might find yourself having to do a bit of prep work to the organs just to get your dog to eat them. This could mean doing a light sear with some spices or feeding it to them frozen or the tried and true method that we use of just shoving it down their throats! Organs are an essential part of the prey model raw diet. They need them so you have to find a way to get your dogs to eat them, whatever that might be. Don’t cook them all the way through because most of the nutrition is lost during the cooking process. If you do a light sear, you want to go even lighter with each time you do this until your dogs will eat it basically raw, if not 100% raw.

Unlike the other food sources,  this addition is just a once a week thing. The amount you will feed will be similar to what you did with beef heart because organs are very very rich and will cause loose stool with almost every dog out there. You can feed organs with chicken backs to help alleviate digestive upset. Each new week you feed your organ meal, feed just a bit more until you can add in a full meal of organ meat or the equivalent spread over a few days. We feed organs only once and not spread out because our dogs don’t like organs. Some people feed just a little bit of organ each day with each meal.  This is fine too just as long as you keep the 1:1:8 ratio of organ, bone to meat ratio in the back of your mind.

The easiest way for me to calculate the right amount of organ meals to feed is to count how many meals you feed per week. Lets say you feed morning and night, which is what most people do. That is a total of 14 meals per week. If you are only supposed to be feeding ~10% organs that means that only 1.5 meals should consist of organ. That can be an exclusive organ meal or spread out throughout the week. Just make sure that you are getting enough organs in. They are essential to optimum health.

Continued Success

So, you have you done it. You are a poo expert and dog nutrition enthusiast. Where do you go from here?

Keep adding in protein sources that you come across. You have the tools and knowledge to know what you are doing and the support team to ask questions if you are not 100% sure about something. The more variety the better.

You know that if you see loose stool, add more bone or powdery stool feed less bone.

You also know that a bit of diarrhea is nothing to sweat, its normal.

Spread the word. Become someone that is an advocate for this lifestyle. Change the world and how our animals are treated. Its a rewarding thing! We started off beginners and now writing our own website to help others.  See what you can do!

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Akasha’s first chicken wing!

Jon | February 5th, 2010

Our 8 week old Great Dane puppy eating her very first raw meal the day we brought her home :D She’s never eaten anything but raw since we brought her home that day.

and you can see she’s grown up well ;)
Akasha @ 10 months

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