I will post pix very soon The breeder isn't the best photographer, possibly the WORST lol so that's really why I haven't posted any xD And yes, she's totally unrelated to Max, and we are certainly not breeding them, so they will be brother and sister. Or life long companions. W/e relationship they decide but neither of them are getting any action *bleh* lol (Max never learned to hump, thank goodness I have been blessed with a saint of a pup hahahha)
Oh, don't get me wrong! I wasn't asking because I thought you were going to breed them. I was asking because I have known people who have loved their breeder and their dog so much that they choose to go get a related dog that has the same lines. I have certain Xolo lines I like. I NEED to get Iorveth registered because I don't remember a single name from his pedigree. IF I am remembering right, he and BIS BISS GCh Bayshore's Georgio Armani (the dog that has repeatedly represented the breed at Westminster) come from similar lines. I do love those lines, but they are taller and leaner and have more of the sighthound look to them. My next Xolo will be a Caliente dog. Those dogs are very easy to identify. They are shorter and stockier and are more what I call the "Mexican Xolos" rather than the American ones. Kind of like the American vs the European Danes. Iorveth's breeder showed my favorite sire, GCh Serranisimo Caliente, in the US and produced from litters from him, but I ended up with Iorveth instead. I like both types, to be honest. I love watching Iorveth run and he is just THE definition of balance and grace, but both types are very attractive to me. I'd LOVE one of each!
Oh geez. I just hope she isnt swallowing all of the 40lbs of chicken necks I ordered ;__; I err'ed on the safe side for a good bone-in chciken because we didn't have Max when he was 8weeks old (more like 13-14 weeks, so considerable size difference) so I really don't know how big she's going to be when we pick her up lol. I like those chicken quarter bags, I used to get them for Max all the time. I think those and the whole chickens Winco sells would be safe bets for her then. I can still canx the order of chicken necks but they were a good deal at bulk for .67/lb...should I cancel or...?
Those should definitely work for her. It has been a long time since I have had chicken necks in this house, because there are much easier things for me to get my hands on. I don't actually remember what the concern is about chicken necks. I remember choking being mentioned because they are small enough that large dogs aren't concerned about crunching them, but then, my dogs swallow pieces ripped off of larger meals that are much larger than a chicken neck. There are dogs like Dude, though, who chew EVERYTHING they eat. I've seen quite a few large dogs who are careful eaters eat a bowl of chicken necks including Old Man Collie. A thought for chicken necks or feet or anything like that might be to freeze them in water for a kind of summer ice treat with a "prize" in the middle. Ha. Although mine do both like just plain ol' ice.
And it's settled! I'll feed her as soon as she is willing I jsut wanted to make sure I wasn't torturing the poor thing nor setting her up for failure by feeding so soon.
It is finding turkey parts at a low price or whole turkeys that are not enhanced is the issue. (I did some digging through my chest freezer and found some leftover bone-in pieces Max wouldn't dare work on from last Thanksgiving haha)
That CAN be a struggle, yes. They ARE out there though. I wish I could remember what turkeys we were feeding... We would check every store we went to see what they had for whole turkeys and did eventually find some that weren't enhanced and bought as many as would fit in the freezer. We should all start keeping lists of what meats we buy from what companies that aren't enhanced. If you decide to skip turkey for now or just do turkey parts when you can find them, remember to check back around the holidays. Turkeys are much more plentiful at that time of year and it's easier to find unenhanced birds. We wait until the holidays are over because they sell them for cheap to get rid of them.
-side note- I am still trying to work out how I'm going to budget feeding two dogs, one a new puppy with multiple meals and one a full grown eating machine, I stopped weighing a long time ago but I swear on a good day with plenty of exercise Max can devour 3 maybe 3.5 lbs and not make a difference to his body condition..in comparison to his usual "this looks like his typical 2 lbs" meals. these darned active dogs lmao.
Both of mine are that way. Iorveth should be getting around 1.5 lbs. On bone in days, he gets just over 3 lbs and on boneless days (if it's a red meat) he gets 2 lbs. Buck can pack away 4.5 lbs on any given day and once the food gut digests, he is just as lean and mean as he was before. I wish I had a metabolism like them. Local farmers are your friends as well as buying in bulk whenever you can. Hunters typically hate to waste meat, but they are also itching to get out hunting despite still having meat in the freezer. They are often happy to find someone who will put the old meat to good use so they can fill up their freezer with this year's kill.
back to turkey stuff- I've only ever seen whole turkeys un-enhanced Thanksgiving time. I'll probably end up buying turkey necks from my co-op when our current order of necks runs out. I will have to do some shopping around and see how she handles bones when it comes to pork. Max, being as finicky and dainty as he is, loves pork ribs (I cut them to like 3 rib pieces, if that makes sense, so he doesn't feel overwhelmed, he would probably be scared of a half or even quarter rack hahahah) but I have to agree. It did take him a bit to realize that i was giving him the good stuff lol
Ah... I mentioned the holiday turkeys above... Should have read your whole post first. Ha! Ribs seem to stump a lot of dogs. Dude would occasionally pick all the meat off of them and leave the bones. Totally defeated the purpose of giving him a meal with heavy bone... For Buck,w e literally unwrap the whole rack of ribs (frozen solid) and hand it to him. He crunches through it like it's butter. That dog is a ton of fun to watch while he eats. Absolute powerhouse. Iorveth prefers poultry bones and I think it's because he just doesn't have many teeth. He has one good carnassial in each upper and lower jaw on each side (so 4 total) and you can see him maneuver things that need to be crunched to the back of his mouth where those big teeth are. The canines (he has all 4 canines) and those little front teeth just aren't useful for crunching big bones so all of that work goes to those back teeth. He CAN eat ribs, but he gets frustrated with them.
and lastly! That's what I was sorta asking about the turkey/chicken hearts. I noticed Maxi's poop will always be a bit firmer/lighter if he's fed mostly gizzards and/or hearts for a meal in comparison to beef/pork so I felt they wouldn't be too intense as opposed to beef/pork hearts (and yeah i never know the difference between effect/affect...I just don't use affect lmao)
I would imagine that, just like the regular meat of turkey and chicken being "milder" than beef and pork etc. the hearts would be too. I would still go slower with them, but I think they are "safer" than the hearts from red meat animals.